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  1. 30 April 2012
  2. 00:33 - ..: just to make it clear, i wasnt talking because im in a shit mood, and i'd just rage at everything, and i dont think you guys need to hear that
  3. 00:33 - ..: and the reason i left is because i dont have to and dont want to listen to battle's flaming at me
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  9. 00:47 - Jahze: well you're right that i don't need to hear it ... i never want to hear it ... i work 8 hours a day and play video games to relax and have fun. people raging at each other or at themselves isn't my definition of that, to the point where i don't want to play much anymore with brb ... there is too much rage
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  11. .. is now Online.
  12. 00:55 - ..: oh man :(
  13. 00:55 - ..: i dont know what went wrong in the way
  14. 00:55 - ..: but i rage all the time ( recently at myself )
  15. 00:55 - ..: drac rages a lot
  16. 00:56 - ..: blazing's shit talking to me sometimes annoys the crap outta me
  17. 00:56 - ..: sometimes
  18. 00:56 - ..: we used to have a lot of fun
  19. 00:59 - ..: well tbf everyone rages
  20. 00:59 - ..: your rage is the least harmful probably :D
  21. 00:59 - ..: you just go like " oh man M2M2M2!!! "
  22. 00:59 - ..: :)
  23. 01:07 - ..: well i you were up for a game I'd play but i guess not :D
  24. 01:12 - Jahze: i think there is a difference between when i get a little mad about getting m2ed for the 20th time and other types of rage. i don't (or at least am pretty sure i don't) go on and on about things that i failed or that don't matter.....i don't get into arguments about stupid shit becuase there is no point
  25. 01:12 - ..: you've been typing for a long time :)
  26. 01:13 - Jahze: people talking all over mumble getting mad about shit for minutes at a time
  27. 01:13 - Jahze: that's not fun for me
  28. 01:13 - Jahze: if i rage about something it's because i think it genuinely matters
  29. 01:13 - Jahze: not because i missed a pop on a boomer
  30. 01:14 - Jahze: not because i punched by a tank, or because i failed a witch crown, or missed a skeet
  31. 01:14 - Jahze: i play l4d2 almost every day
  32. 01:14 - Jahze: and these things happen every day
  33. 01:14 - Jahze: if i raged every time
  34. 01:14 - Jahze: i'd rage every day for to no fucking end
  35. 01:14 - ..: well, if i get m2d 20 times i get mad at MYSELF, because i do something wrong probably.
  36. 01:14 - Jahze: fine, i'm bad and don't try to cap in a way that means i won't get m2ed
  37. 01:15 - Jahze: but that is not the point i am making
  38. 01:15 - ..: 01:14 - Jahze: fine, i'm bad and don't try to cap in a way that means i won't get m2ed
  39. 01:15 - ..: thats not what i was trying to say..
  40. 01:16 - Jahze: i know, but what what i'm saying is that it doesn't matter the reason
  41. 01:16 - Jahze: if i get mad at them
  42. 01:16 - Jahze: or myself
  43. 01:16 - Jahze: there's no point in getting mad at all
  44. 01:17 - ..: the thing is, whenever i fail to skeet or m2 a hunter, fail to clear an SI, to pop a boomer etc, whatever, thats just frustrating, and when it happens too many times, i fail too many times i just get mad
  45. 01:18 - ..: I've got 2.5k hrs in this game and I'm not nearly as good as I want to
  46. 01:18 - Jahze: and it's fine if that your style, but it's not mine and the only thing that frustrates me is when people start raging out all over mumble
  47. 01:19 - Jahze: drac used to be the same, he raged worse than he did now
  48. 01:19 - Jahze: by comparison he is now calm
  49. 01:19 - Jahze: in a lot of games he doesn't actually rage when you know what he means by his tone of voice
  50. 01:19 - Jahze: he's just trying to give advice
  51. 01:19 - Jahze: but
  52. 01:19 - Jahze: i have 2.2k hours
  53. 01:19 - Jahze: and i don't care how good i am
  54. 01:20 - Jahze: sure, i want to be good
  55. 01:20 - Jahze: and i think i'm a mid player
  56. 01:20 - Jahze: but i know that i'm never going to be the top l4d2 player
  57. 01:20 - Jahze: and i'm completely fine with that
  58. 01:20 - Jahze: because i play for fun
  59. 01:20 - Jahze: and if i have fun
  60. 01:20 - Jahze: then that's 2.2k hours well spent
  61. 01:20 - ..: 01:20 - Jahze: but i know that i'm never going to be the top l4d2 player
  62. 01:20 - ..: sure, if you dont want to
  63. 01:21 - ..: i want to tbh
  64. 01:21 - Jahze: i don't play l4d2 to be the best player
  65. 01:21 - Jahze: you're not going to be fish, and you have to accept that
  66. 01:21 - Jahze: i'm not trying to say you're bad
  67. 01:21 - Jahze: so don't take it like that
  68. 01:22 - Jahze: you just have to accept reality, there are really good players in this game
  69. 01:22 - Jahze: you have to catch up to them before you can be the best
  70. 01:22 - Jahze: and they are playing as much as you
  71. 01:22 - Jahze: and improving too
  72. 01:22 - ..: BUT
  73. 01:22 - ..: 1.
  74. 01:23 - ..: when you start playing, you improve in a faster rate, then you start to improve slower
  75. 01:23 - ..: 2. if you play longer then them
  76. 01:23 - ..: then they'll probably quit the game
  77. 01:23 - ..: :D
  78. 01:24 - ..: and then
  79. 01:24 - ..: become shit
  80. 01:24 - ..: obviously
  81. 01:25 - Jahze: but will you be as good as them in their prime? who knows
  82. 01:25 - Jahze: and it's l4d2
  83. 01:25 - Jahze: it's a team game
  84. 01:25 - Jahze: it's about the best team
  85. 01:25 - Jahze: if you want to be the best player
  86. 01:25 - ..: well yeah, I'd say I'm a mid+ player when im in the zone ( if i play like shit its more like mid- )
  87. 01:25 - Jahze: go quake live
  88. 01:26 - ..: for now, i just wanna step up, and be a high skilled player
  89. 01:26 - ..: 01:25 - Jahze: it's a team game
  90. 01:27 - ..: yes, but I dont like to worry about how others play
  91. 01:27 - ..: I dont wanna blame someone else
  92. 01:27 - ..: if you think about it, even though if someone fucks up, it is almost always phisically possible for you to solve the situation
  93. 01:28 - ..: ofc nobody plays perfect
  94. 01:28 - ..: *perfectly
  95. 01:28 - Jahze: 01:27 - ..: if you think about it, even though if someone fucks up, it is almost always phisically possible for you to solve the situation
  96. 01:28 - Jahze: yes and no
  97. 01:28 - Jahze: if you mean that you can win a game with your skill alone then no
  98. 01:29 - Jahze: if you mean that you have to be there for your team mates then yes
  99. 01:29 - Jahze: well at least
  100. 01:29 - Jahze: that is my opinion
  101. 01:29 - ..: hmm, well, I do believe that one very high skilled player can carry so hard you wouldnt think
  102. 01:30 - Jahze: well then i think our outlook is way too different
  103. 01:30 - Jahze: yes someone can carry
  104. 01:30 - Jahze: but just cap then
  105. 01:30 - Jahze: but it doesn't matter
  106. 01:30 - Jahze: we think differently
  107. 01:31 - ..: im not arguing just saying :)
  108. 01:31 - Jahze: sure, and as always i am avoiding an argument
  109. 01:31 - Jahze: :P
  110. 01:32 - ..: lets say we get wiped
  111. 01:32 - ..: what do i do?
  112. 01:32 - ..: think about what i did wrong
  113. 01:32 - ..: and what i could've done
  114. 01:32 - ..: and there is always something
  115. 01:32 - Jahze: but
  116. 01:32 - Jahze: there is another thing: listen to what your team mates say about what you did wrong
  117. 01:33 - ..: i cant blame others, because i have no controll over it
  118. 01:33 - Jahze: yes you do
  119. 01:33 - Jahze: you play in a team
  120. 01:33 - ..: but its not me who handles your mouse
  121. 01:33 - ..: :D
  122. 01:33 - Jahze: nope
  123. 01:33 - Jahze: you can't stop me from failing a crown
  124. 01:33 - Jahze: but there are other thigns that you can listen to
  125. 01:34 - Jahze: and to win a lot of games
  126. 01:34 - Jahze: you have to have a well oiled team
  127. 01:34 - Jahze: everyone knowing what to do in certain situations
  128. 01:34 - Jahze: so that the team works properly
  129. 01:34 - ..: 01:32 - Jahze: there is another thing: listen to what your team mates say about what you did wrong
  130. 01:34 - ..: listen to me
  131. 01:34 - ..: 01:32 - ..: lets say we get wiped
  132. 01:32 - ..: what do i do?
  133. 01:32 - ..: think about what i did wrong
  134. 01:32 - ..: and what i could've done
  135. 01:32 - ..: and there is always something
  136. 01:34 - ..: I KNOW what I fucked up all the time
  137. 01:34 - ..: and its enough for me to feel bad about it
  138. 01:34 - Jahze: i disagree
  139. 01:34 - ..: I dont need to hear it from you as well
  140. 01:35 - ..: that just makes me rage
  141. 01:35 - Jahze: you think about what you did wrong in terms of your own perspective
  142. 01:35 - ..: no
  143. 01:35 - Jahze: you don't necessarily think about it from other people's
  144. 01:35 - Jahze: if everyone thinks to drop left
  145. 01:35 - Jahze: and you drop right
  146. 01:35 - Jahze: who is right?
  147. 01:35 - Jahze: the answer is everyone else
  148. 01:35 - Jahze: because 3 people on the team think the same
  149. 01:36 - Jahze: and if you are coordinated then you would have done better
  150. 01:36 - Jahze: even if
  151. 01:36 - Jahze: the perfect strat is to drop right
  152. 01:36 - Jahze: fine
  153. 01:36 - Jahze: but you can talk about that after
  154. 01:36 - Jahze: and change your gameplay next time you come to that situation
  155. 01:38 - ..: yea, but if i fuck up like that i know it
  156. 01:39 - Jahze: in my experience if someone tells you that you did something wrong you tell them that you did it for some reason, rather than listening to what they have to say and taking it as advice rather than criticism
  157. 01:40 - ..: its just another thing, if you start blaming me i try to defend myself, just because as i said i feel bad enough that i fucked up
  158. 01:40 - Jahze: exactly
  159. 01:40 - Jahze: it's not blaming
  160. 01:40 - Jahze: it's advice
  161. 01:41 - ..: and if you think about it as well, you can always twist out things
  162. 01:41 - ..: you never know what would've happened IF
  163. 01:41 - ..: and there is no perfect strategy
  164. 01:41 - Jahze: nope there isn't
  165. 01:41 - ..: so you can argue about these things all day
  166. 01:42 - Jahze: indeed
  167. 01:42 - ..: and nobody will be right actually
  168. 01:42 - Jahze: but as i say it's a team game, i listen to be my team and i try to play in a way that we have talked about and been given advice about
  169. 01:42 - Jahze: when things don't work out
  170. 01:42 - Jahze: we make improvements to our strats
  171. 01:43 - Jahze: it's an ongoing process
  172. 01:43 - ..: what i'd like is
  173. 01:44 - ..: from you guys
  174. 01:44 - ..: if i fuck sg up
  175. 01:44 - ..: dont bring it up
  176. 01:44 - ..: during the match
  177. 01:44 - Jahze: isn't going to happen
  178. 01:44 - ..: you can bring it up later
  179. 01:44 - Jahze: and that's one of the reasons why i think i won't play with brb much longer -- our styles don't mesh
  180. 01:44 - Jahze: me and drac have always played together
  181. 01:45 - Jahze: we bring shit up at the time
  182. 01:45 - Jahze: if it makes you mad, then it makes me mad, then it's no fun
  183. 01:45 - Jahze: if someone tells me i fucked up i accept it
  184. 01:45 - Jahze: sometimes i'll give an explanation
  185. 01:45 - Jahze: about what i was trying to do
  186. 01:45 - Jahze: because maybe someone doesn't know
  187. 01:46 - Jahze: but i can't write a list of where people fucked up and say it all at the game
  188. 01:46 - Jahze: anyway i have work tomorrow, i need to go to bed
  189. 01:46 - Jahze: cya later
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