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a guest Jun 1st, 2015 280 Never
  1. TyHachi _ - Saturday 11:22 AM
  2. > It looks like you're Kingdom sect is set on attacking everything in sight. :p
  3.  
  4. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:24 PM
  5. > What's going on?
  6.  
  7. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:25 PM
  8. > Spahs?
  9.  
  10. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:25 PM
  11. > KoE declared war on FC too
  12.  
  13. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:25 PM
  14. > Somehow, I doubt they did it like thaaat
  15.  
  16. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:25 PM
  17. > How did they do so?
  18.  
  19. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:26 PM
  20. > http://8ch.net/compounds/res/3009.html#q3009
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  22. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:29 PM
  23. > Just a second. Tetrising to mindbleach something I saw when getting too comfortable with 8ch
  24.  
  25. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:30 PM
  26. > Okay.
  27.  
  28. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:37 PM
  29. > Interesting
  30.  
  31. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:40 PM
  32. > Why did KoE separate from you anyway?
  33.  
  34. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:42 PM
  35. > I'm less sure of them being alts, and prefer a diplomatic and peaceful approach
  36.  
  37. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:42 PM
  38. > As in, I was considering the possibility of more friendly relations with lolibug
  39.  
  40. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:42 PM
  41. > Yeah. Peace would've been nice.
  42.  
  43. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:43 PM
  44. > But I don't know if that's possible with Scarf and Eggs. vv
  45.  
  46. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:44 PM
  47. > Scarf likes peace, but is a bit paranoid
  48.  
  49. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:44 PM
  50. > I doubt he would have moved to FC next though.
  51.  
  52. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:45 PM
  53. > I know. Ive seen his world order stuff where he wanted to propose a basically universal alliance.
  54.  
  55. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:45 PM
  56. > He's so paranoid he goes to war instead o diplomacy for peace. v-v
  57.  
  58. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:48 PM
  59. > Hmmm
  60.  
  61. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:48 PM
  62. > From the chat log...
  63.  
  64. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:48 PM
  65. > Did you see they're attacking Ibuscus?
  66.  
  67. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:49 PM
  68. > They did attack a bit pre-emptively
  69.  
  70. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:49 PM
  71. > But at the same time, I can see why they dide
  72.  
  73. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:50 PM
  74. > I asked them to withdraw from Ibuscus because he is a casual who is not involved
  75.  
  76. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:50 PM
  77. > And said I would get him to go to FFA
  78.  
  79. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:50 PM
  80. > They refused.
  81.  
  82. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:50 PM
  83. > He is quite small
  84.  
  85. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:50 PM
  86. > Not really worth conquering
  87.  
  88. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:50 PM
  89. > False
  90.  
  91. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:51 PM
  92. > Nations are worth more than ever with nation farming gone.
  93.  
  94. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:51 PM
  95. > True
  96.  
  97. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:51 PM
  98. > But in terms of war
  99.  
  100. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:51 PM
  101. > Its quite obvious they're after it and don't care.
  102.  
  103. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:51 PM
  104. > They want it for resources, not to win.
  105.  
  106. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:51 PM
  107. > No, I doubt this is greed.
  108.  
  109. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:52 PM
  110. > They genuinely think that you're going to aid Myra in aiding Lolibug, and this is their pre-emptive strike
  111.  
  112. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:52 PM
  113. > Even if I am, it doesn't matter because Ibuscus has no involvement.
  114.  
  115. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:53 PM
  116. > Heck they aren't even attacking our zebrica or Burros with the exception of me.
  117.  
  118. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:53 PM
  119. > So why attack Ibuscus?
  120.  
  121. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:53 PM
  122. > It makes no sense unless they just want nations.
  123.  
  124. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:53 PM
  125. > I'll try and convince them to shift.
  126.  
  127. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:54 PM
  128. > They're hoping for both nations, and to take out the 'weak link', in order to further the effort against Lolibug
  129.  
  130. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:54 PM
  131. > Who they are assuming Myra's supporting
  132.  
  133. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:54 PM
  134. > And thus believe that myra's manipulating FC into supporting
  135.  
  136. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:54 PM
  137. > Well Ib isn't involved and I already tried to talk Eggs down.
  138.  
  139. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:55 PM
  140. > All I got was basically I hate you and I'm not nice like others in KoE from Eggs
  141.  
  142. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:56 PM
  143. > :P They're suspicious, but they're thinking they're doing this out of self-defence, thus making this hard to diffuse
  144.  
  145. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:56 PM
  146. > Well one things for sure. I can't be neutral any longer. I have to fight back now.
  147.  
  148. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:56 PM
  149. > Probably the only way to diffuse it would be to boot Myra in return for peace, but I doubt that's likely to happen
  150.  
  151. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:56 PM
  152. > I've long been hesitant to involve FC in this and join but they're forcing us in now.
  153.  
  154. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:57 PM
  155. > Look at what they posted
  156.  
  157. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:57 PM
  158. > They're not really getting your reluctance at the end
  159.  
  160. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:57 PM
  161. > First bit implies that you're all ALREADY planning on attacking KoE
  162.  
  163. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:58 PM
  164. > >A number of us dislike some of the players in KoE
  165.  
  166. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:58 PM
  167. > An aggressive statement, implying that this is an attack that IWLL happen
  168.  
  169. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:58 PM
  170. > There had been plans but I had been reluctant because I was afraid of involving our casuals and those who didn't want to fight. I proposed a split even while the spy was there but they didn't post that
  171.  
  172. Dark Vessel - Saturday 1:59 PM
  173. > Maybe the spy didn't tell them
  174.  
  175. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:59 PM
  176. > I did not want to involve those who didn't want to fight and I even suggest standing down as leader
  177.  
  178. TyHachi _ - Saturday 1:59 PM
  179. > I posted an image
  180.  
  181. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:00 PM
  182. > http://8ch.net/compounds/res/3009.html#q3033
  183.  
  184. http://8ch.net/compounds/res/3009.html#q3034
  185.  
  186. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:00 PM
  187. > Anyway, i know them. if they're doing this, it's because they do genuinely think that you're trying to strike them
  188.  
  189. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:00 PM
  190. > Like a cornered animal, essentially
  191.  
  192. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:00 PM
  193. > See the thing is, I'm fine with them attacking me. I'm not fine with them attacking people not involved.
  194.  
  195. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:01 PM
  196. > That's why Im mad at them. I could care less if they declared war on me individually.
  197.  
  198. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:01 PM
  199. > [19:01:00] Stranger: They have people associated with Aryan eliminating weaker players and Tyrannis in their alliance, it was only a matter of time before one of them suggested "cannibalizing" (THK's choice of words) him as well.
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  201. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:02 PM
  202. > Hum
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  204. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:02 PM
  205. > What
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  207. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:02 PM
  208. > I'll try to argue in favor of sending him to FFA
  209.  
  210. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:02 PM
  211. > Thanks DV.
  212.  
  213. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:02 PM
  214. > I just want him out of this and I don't want to take extreme measures.
  215.  
  216. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:02 PM
  217. > But its looking like I'll have to for now. >>"
  218.  
  219. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:04 PM
  220. > [19:03:25] Dark Vessel: If they attack someone in FFA, they'll take the full brunt of FFA's wrath
  221.  
  222. <<< [19:03:55] Stranger: It's a bluff anyways.
  223.  
  224. <<<
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  226. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:04 PM
  227. > [19:03:25] Dark Vessel: If they attack someone in FFA, they'll take the full brunt of FFA's wrath
  228.  
  229. <<< [19:03:55] Stranger: It's a bluff anyways.
  230.  
  231. <<<
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  233. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:04 PM
  234. > Wait what
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  236. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:05 PM
  237. > They don't seem confident that sending him to FFA wil do anything
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  239. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:05 PM
  240. > What do you mean? Why would it not do anything?
  241.  
  242. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:07 PM
  243. > [19:06:45] Stranger: Of course, he can re-join an alliance that won't inevitability snuff him out.
  244.  
  245. <<<
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  247. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:07 PM
  248. > I don't understand. I'm trying to get him to FFA because FFA is supposed to be neutral.
  249.  
  250. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:08 PM
  251. > He has no reason to be attacked and he has done nothing to them.
  252.  
  253. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:08 PM
  254. > Here's their reasoning:
  255.  
  256. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:08 PM
  257. > "We think you're associated with our enemies."
  258.  
  259. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:08 PM
  260. > "Our enemies have a history of attacking their own members"
  261.  
  262. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:08 PM
  263. > "Therefore, if we do nothing, you'll cannibalize him to further your own power"
  264.  
  265. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:09 PM
  266. > Yup, Stranger just confirmed that theory
  267.  
  268. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:09 PM
  269. > If he is in FFA we will not attack him
  270.  
  271. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:10 PM
  272. > Ive been doing everything in my power to keep him safe but there's only so much I can do. If he doesn't get there extreme actions will happen. I don't want that.
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  274. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:11 PM
  275. > [19:01:00] Stranger: They have people associated with Aryan eliminating weaker players and Tyrannis in their alliance, it was only a matter of time before one of them suggested "cannibalizing" (THK's choice of words) him as well.
  276.  
  277. Wait why mention Tyrannis...
  278.  
  279. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:11 PM
  280. > Has he been associated with them on the board?
  281.  
  282. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:12 PM
  283. > He debates against them. Tyrannis is a newer player who joined FC.
  284.  
  285. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:13 PM
  286. > Oh wait, he might be talking about Tyrannis because he conquered a nation?
  287.  
  288. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:14 PM
  289. > Okay
  290.  
  291. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:14 PM
  292. > This may come off a liiitttllleee bad
  293.  
  294. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:14 PM
  295. > But what if he came to CoLC?>
  296.  
  297. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:14 PM
  298. > They don't want to attack him, they just want him out of the way of being nationfarmed
  299.  
  300. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:14 PM
  301. > They don't want to attack him, they just want him out of the way of being nationfarmed
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  303. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:15 PM
  304. > I don't think anyone in FC will be okay with it. Nobody really trusts anyone here.
  305.  
  306. That's why a neutral party was suggested.
  307.  
  308. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:15 PM
  309. > I don't think anyone in FC will be okay with it. Nobody really trusts anyone here.
  310.  
  311. That's why a neutral party was suggested.
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  313. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:16 PM
  314. > Suggest it, and remind them that it's ME suggesting it, and that i'm having trouble reigning them in. This may be the only shot :P
  315.  
  316. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:16 PM
  317. > Okay
  318.  
  319. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:18 PM
  320. > Well I tried.
  321.  
  322. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:18 PM
  323. > Hasn't been shot but I suggested it
  324.  
  325. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:18 PM
  326. > Lemme guess
  327.  
  328. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:19 PM
  329. > Hm? Hasn't been shot?
  330.  
  331. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:19 PM
  332. > I don't have an answer yet.
  333.  
  334. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:19 PM
  335. > So... Oooh
  336.  
  337. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:19 PM
  338. > I just posted it
  339.  
  340. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:24 PM
  341. > [19:23:31] Stranger: I just don't want the guild wars to happen again.. They're snuffing out their own noobs to build an empire. What happens when the guild can attack more than just noobs? Then they attack everyone.
  342. [19:23:44 | Edited 19:23:49] Sephi Xarados: ^ Exactly.
  343.  
  344. TyHachi _ - Saturday 2:24 PM
  345. > They're so paranoid.
  346.  
  347. Dark Vessel - Saturday 2:31 PM
  348. > [19:30:13] TKoE: DV, it was their plan to attack Cloud, who is the closest thing to an IB we have.
  349. I'm simply doing their thing faster than they can
  350.  
  351. <<<
  352.  
  353. TyHachi _ - Saturday 3:33 PM
  354. > Look Ive talked to my alliance. Its FFA or we can't do it. I wish there was an alternative but no one trusts anyone enough.
  355.  
  356. Dark Vessel - Saturday 3:41 PM
  357. > Shame x.x
  358.  
  359. Dark Vessel - Saturday 3:41 PM
  360. > They weren't that keen on my end either
  361.  
  362. Dark Vessel - Saturday 3:42 PM
  363. >
  364.  
  365. TyHachi _ - Saturday 3:43 PM
  366. > What did Sephi say
  367.  
  368. Dark Vessel - Saturday 3:43 PM
  369. > [19:18:28] Sephi Xarados: Oh yeah, that doesn't spell 'revenge espionage' at all!
  370.  
  371. <<<
  372.  
  373. Dark Vessel - Saturday 3:43 PM
  374. > Rest was just a bit of me that melded in badly for some reason :P
  375.  
  376. TyHachi _ - Saturday 3:44 PM
  377. > Ah okay
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