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  1. Nah he's not elitist at all
  2. [2:08:31 AM] Zealtsy: Trust me
  3. [2:08:35 AM] Zealtsy: He is definitel ynot an elitist
  4. [2:08:59 AM] Zealtsy: He is just making extreme use of his time
  5. [2:09:07 AM] Zealtsy: Okay let me tell you something here lol
  6. [2:09:11 AM] SpiduhBMX: I feel like if I say something wrong about a vn he will say the worst possible things about me in the most fluent Japanese of anyone on Fuwa lol
  7. [2:09:21 AM] Zealtsy: You may think that what you're doing is a 'waste of time' compared to him
  8. [2:09:28 AM] Zealtsy: But nah that;s not true
  9. [2:09:38 AM] SpiduhBMX: No, what I do definitely is.
  10. [2:09:38 AM] Zealtsy: Because all hobbies, whatever they may be, are the same in value
  11. [2:09:47 AM] Zealtsy: Nope I refuse to accept that
  12. [2:09:49 AM] Zealtsy: sorry
  13. [2:10:07 AM] SpiduhBMX: I'm at the point where i'm about to be kicked out of highschool.
  14. [2:10:20 AM] SpiduhBMX: End up working 9-5 the rest of my life
  15. [2:10:21 AM] Zealtsy: I ditched highschool and I can recite Wittgenstein
  16. [2:10:27 AM] SpiduhBMX: and achieving NOTHING.
  17. [2:10:32 AM] Zealtsy: Lol
  18. [2:10:36 AM] Zealtsy: Ughhh
  19. [2:10:43 AM] Zealtsy: Another thing
  20. [2:10:49 AM | Edited 2:10:53 AM] SpiduhBMX: I thought south America was Africa LMAO
  21. [2:10:49 AM] Zealtsy: There is never such a thing as 'nothing'
  22. [2:11:12 AM] Zealtsy: and then you re-established the information and everything's fine again
  23. [2:11:25 AM] Zealtsy: I mean, okay let me say it in different words
  24. [2:11:32 AM] Zealtsy: all humans have the same value as each other
  25. [2:11:41 AM] Zealtsy: There is not one human who is of lower value than another
  26. [2:11:45 AM] Zealtsy: There
  27. [2:11:55 AM] Zealtsy: This is a truth
  28. [2:12:04 AM] Zealtsy: That means
  29. [2:12:15 AM] Zealtsy: That there is no human that is smarter than another, or dumber
  30. [2:12:19 AM] Zealtsy: and so on
  31. [2:12:26 AM] Zealtsy: This is truth
  32. [2:12:40 AM] Zealtsy: You know why it's true?
  33. [2:12:47 AM] Zealtsy: Because I know for certain it isn't false
  34. [2:12:54 AM] SpiduhBMX: Because we will all die in the end?
  35. [2:13:00 AM] Zealtsy: Yea
  36. [2:13:10 AM] Zealtsy: We all hold the same value, we all have the same fate
  37. [2:13:21 AM] Zealtsy: It isn't a sad thing, because it would only be if you were doomed to die long before I was
  38. [2:13:27 AM] Zealtsy: then it'd be a sad thing for you
  39. [2:13:27 AM] Zealtsy: But nope
  40. [2:13:38 AM] Zealtsy: You will die at the same approximate time I will
  41. [2:13:46 AM] Zealtsy: So we share eachothers' fates
  42. [2:13:49 AM] Zealtsy: NO SADNESS EXISTS
  43. [2:13:53 AM] Zealtsy: NO LOWER VALUE EXISTS
  44. [2:13:53 AM] SpiduhBMX: But you never know that for certain.
  45. [2:13:54 AM] Zealtsy: AWSEIKNHFIUEABFIYUESBFSHJUBFEEDHJBFVDS
  46. [2:13:57 AM] Zealtsy: DSIKFNIUSEWFBYUSEFB NO
  47. [2:14:03 AM] Zealtsy: >: (
  48. [2:14:07 AM] Zealtsy: anyways
  49. [2:14:31 AM] Zealtsy: I dropped out of highschool, and I am wasting my time
  50. [2:14:49 AM] Zealtsy: Yet I can still recite philosophers' words and understand the facets to art
  51. [2:15:05 AM] Zealtsy: You can very well do that all with only a month of time of studying
  52. [2:15:12 AM] Zealtsy: and said studying is not arduous or hard
  53. [2:15:21 AM] Zealtsy: But your hobbies
  54. [2:15:25 AM] Zealtsy: Have skills to them too
  55. [2:15:44 AM] Zealtsy: It doesn't matter, because even if you don't think highly of your hobbies
  56. [2:16:13 AM] Zealtsy: You have a hobby that you do think highly of, and perhaps it's not right there yet
  57. [2:16:33 AM] Zealtsy: So well, elitists are just people who are wasting their own time to make fun of people who do the same
  58. [2:17:08 AM] Zealtsy: Because elitists have to waste their time to talk to people just to brag in their faces that they're better than them
  59. [2:17:22 AM] SpiduhBMX: You have a good point.
  60. [2:17:24 AM] Zealtsy: You don't waste your time because you do none of that
  61. [2:17:33 AM] Zealtsy: I know, because I've dealt with them for my entire life lol
  62. [2:17:39 AM] Zealtsy: even outside the internet
  63. [2:17:40 AM] Zealtsy: and in real life
  64. [2:18:20 AM] Zealtsy: Here's the thing
  65. [2:18:37 AM] Zealtsy: Elitists want to read all the coolest shit only so they can brag about that stuff to others
  66. [2:18:48 AM] Zealtsy: That is wasting the value of that story in the end, right?
  67. [2:18:51 AM] Zealtsy: Think about this for a moment
  68. [2:19:06 AM] Zealtsy: Someone who reads a story has some motivation to read it
  69. [2:19:29 AM] Zealtsy: The motivation where they get value out of the story means is where they are looking to read that story lol
  70. [2:19:59 AM] Zealtsy: But they could also be motivated to read it because it's super cool and other people haven't yet, giving them a reason to brag to those people
  71. [2:20:02 AM] Zealtsy: that means
  72. [2:20:22 AM] SpiduhBMX: So your saying
  73. [2:20:41 AM | Edited 2:21:17 AM] Zealtsy: they have to search for those people, have wasted the value of that story in the process, and then brag to them wasting more time and NOT EVEN SATISFYING THEIRSELVES IN THE END
  74. [2:21:20 AM] SpiduhBMX: Some Elitists are just reading to be better than the people who don't understand the stories as well, or who don't read as much.
  75. [2:21:28 AM] Zealtsy: Yep
  76. [2:21:31 AM] Zealtsy: all elitists are
  77. [2:21:39 AM] Zealtsy: and then they forget what that story was about
  78. [2:21:47 AM] Zealtsy: Because their motivation wans't even to understand it
  79. [2:21:58 AM] Zealtsy: It was to be better than random people they don't even know
  80. [2:22:01 AM] SpiduhBMX: But they can say they read a ton of VN's.
  81. [2:22:03 AM] Zealtsy: it's dumber than dumb
  82. [2:22:05 AM] Zealtsy: lol
  83. [2:22:12 AM] SpiduhBMX: And they can talk fluently in Japanese.
  84. [2:22:22 AM] Zealtsy: Clephas is not an elitist because he actually understands what he read
  85. [2:22:23 AM] SpiduhBMX: Something that, to be 1000% honest
  86. [2:22:31 AM] SpiduhBMX: Is barely useful IRL >.<
  87. [2:22:53 AM] Zealtsy: The problem is that elitists can't actually talk v fluently in Japanese
  88. [2:23:05 AM] Zealtsy: Because just as they forget the content of what they read
  89. [2:23:13 AM] Zealtsy: they also forget the japanese they were reading in the process
  90. [2:23:17 AM] Zealtsy: You see what I mean?
  91. [2:23:19 AM] SpiduhBMX: yeah
  92. [2:23:25 AM] SpiduhBMX: Mostly.
  93. [2:23:25 AM] Zealtsy: they also weren't even learning Jap
  94. [2:23:34 AM] Zealtsy: BECAUSE THEIR MOTIVATION IS ALL WRONG
  95. [2:23:38 AM] SpiduhBMX: If your not learning it, your forgetting.
  96. [2:23:44 AM] SpiduhBMX: Your becoming worse.
  97. [2:23:53 AM] SpiduhBMX: I can agree with that.
  98. [2:24:03 AM] SpiduhBMX: I've forgotten a lot of things about my spiders.
  99. [2:24:05 AM] SpiduhBMX: And my BMX
  100. [2:24:31 AM] SpiduhBMX: Sorry to agree with myself and cut you off >.<
  101. [2:24:35 AM] SpiduhBMX: Keep going.
  102. [2:24:42 AM] Zealtsy: Nah that's the end of my shtick
  103. [2:24:45 AM] Zealtsy: it's just
  104. [2:24:53 AM] Zealtsy: You don't act like an elitist from what I know
  105. [2:25:07 AM] Zealtsy: You just have hobbies and you are talking with others about them through opinions
  106. [2:25:18 AM] Zealtsy: That is not elitism and that means your motivation is in the right place
  107. [2:25:39 AM | Edited 2:26:00 AM] SpiduhBMX: Well, because I love my hobbies for what they are. And I don't really know enough to be very showoffy about my hobbies.
  108. [2:26:07 AM] Zealtsy: Or rather... you know everything about them and can be content with that
  109. [2:26:31 AM] Zealtsy: Lol humans are so funny, saying "they don't know much of <this> or <that>" <33
  110. [2:26:39 AM] Zealtsy: wrong >: s
  111. [2:26:46 AM] SpiduhBMX: No, I really don't know everything about them >.< Theres a lot more I could learn about spiders.
  112. [2:27:04 AM] Zealtsy: Hehehehehehe.. is that so?
  113. [2:27:08 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yeah, it is.
  114. [2:27:10 AM] Zealtsy: Well then I guess it's true then
  115. [2:27:14 AM] Zealtsy: Hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
  116. [2:27:18 AM] Zealtsy: But well hmm
  117. [2:27:20 AM] Zealtsy: How do I put this...
  118. [2:27:38 AM] SpiduhBMX: You have some kind of philosophical way of proving me wrong, huh? :P
  119. [2:27:43 AM] Zealtsy: Of course
  120. [2:27:47 AM] SpiduhBMX: Lol
  121. [2:27:48 AM] Zealtsy: But I will hold my tongue
  122. [2:27:51 AM] Zealtsy: On this one
  123. [2:27:56 AM] SpiduhBMX: No, please continue
  124. [2:27:57 AM] Zealtsy: Nothing I say will convince you dw
  125. [2:28:00 AM] SpiduhBMX: I want to hear it.
  126. [2:28:15 AM] SpiduhBMX: Convince me! /o/
  127. [2:28:22 AM] Zealtsy: Not gonna work but
  128. [2:28:24 AM] Zealtsy: ok
  129. [2:28:26 AM] SpiduhBMX: My mind is open.
  130. [2:28:30 AM] Zealtsy: No, I really don't know everything about themIs something you know
  131. [2:28:43 AM] Zealtsy: Okay now hmm let me tell you something
  132. [2:28:56 AM] SpiduhBMX: ok
  133. [2:29:03 AM] Zealtsy: When you're in your home
  134. [2:29:07 AM] Zealtsy: There is the front door
  135. [2:29:11 AM] Zealtsy: You're looking at it
  136. [2:29:16 AM] Zealtsy: what do you see?
  137. [2:29:35 AM] SpiduhBMX: Idk which door counts as my front door, Lol
  138. [2:29:41 AM] Zealtsy: It doesn't matter
  139. [2:29:42 AM] SpiduhBMX: But i'll choose
  140. [2:29:46 AM] Zealtsy: But the door to the outside
  141. [2:29:48 AM] Zealtsy: any door to the outside
  142. [2:29:51 AM] SpiduhBMX: the one with the carport.
  143. [2:29:58 AM] Zealtsy: Now when it's shut
  144. [2:30:02 AM] Zealtsy: What do you see?
  145. [2:32:17 AM | Edited 2:32:47 AM] SpiduhBMX: A dirty thin door, with a distorted window that slides upwards and clicks into place when you press the two tabs. Theres a metal strip that goes across diagonally. Theres a curtain with café stuff on it ( I think >.< ). The carpet at the bottom of the door doesn't line up nicely and theres a bit of floor without carpet where you can see the particle board underfloor.
  146. [2:32:47 AM] Zealtsy: Ok
  147. [2:32:50 AM] Zealtsy: So now
  148. [2:32:53 AM] Zealtsy: What can't you see?
  149. [2:33:23 AM] Zealtsy: Hehehehehehehe
  150. [2:33:25 AM] SpiduhBMX: Outside. Besides the bits of distorted light that comes through the window.
  151. [2:33:39 AM] Zealtsy: What's outside?
  152. [2:33:49 AM] SpiduhBMX: A ramp
  153. [2:33:51 AM] SpiduhBMX: Trash
  154. [2:33:55 AM] Zealtsy: No
  155. [2:34:00 AM | Edited 2:34:40 AM] SpiduhBMX: Thin carpet flooring on the ramp, same as in the house.
  156. [2:34:13 AM] Zealtsy: When the door is shut and you're in your home
  157. [2:34:18 AM] Zealtsy: What is outside?
  158. [2:34:25 AM] Zealtsy: Let's say you never went outside once in your life
  159. [2:34:30 AM] Zealtsy: Then what is outside?
  160. [2:35:09 AM] SpiduhBMX: Well, whatever I can see when I slide the window up :3
  161. [2:35:17 AM] Zealtsy: No
  162. [2:35:22 AM] Zealtsy: Say you can't move from the spot
  163. [2:35:25 AM] Zealtsy: What is outside?
  164. [2:35:52 AM] SpiduhBMX: some colors and light shining through the distorted window.
  165. [2:36:03 AM] Zealtsy: Say there was no window
  166. [2:36:05 AM] Zealtsy: What is outside?
  167. [2:36:48 AM | Edited 2:37:21 AM] SpiduhBMX: Wind, Wind that seeps through the cracks around the door. \
  168. [2:37:04 AM] Zealtsy: Say there were no windows, the door was shut, you were in your home, you never been outside before, what would you say was outside?
  169. [2:37:18 AM] Zealtsy: N O T H I N G
  170. [2:37:30 AM] Zealtsy: Nothing is outside
  171. [2:37:41 AM] Zealtsy: What does that statement mean?
  172. [2:37:49 AM] SpiduhBMX: In my mind?
  173. [2:37:52 AM] Zealtsy: It means what it says, it does not imply anything
  174. [2:37:55 AM] SpiduhBMX: Blackness.
  175. [2:38:05 AM] Zealtsy: Do you think that blackness is something?
  176. [2:38:11 AM] SpiduhBMX: Just blackness.
  177. [2:38:16 AM] SpiduhBMX: I think of it as nothing.
  178. [2:38:21 AM] SpiduhBMX: In my mind.
  179. [2:38:23 AM] Zealtsy: Is nothing something to you?
  180. [2:38:36 AM] Zealtsy: Because if it is then you have just lost this philosophy game : P
  181. [2:39:02 AM] Zealtsy: Okay now let me explain the thought experiment
  182. [2:39:04 AM] SpiduhBMX: Well...
  183. [2:39:10 AM] SpiduhBMX: I kinda see
  184. [2:39:18 AM] SpiduhBMX: that there can never be, nothing.
  185. [2:39:24 AM] Zealtsy: Yep
  186. [2:39:28 AM] Zealtsy: YESS
  187. [2:39:31 AM] Zealtsy: THE ANSWER
  188. [2:39:31 AM] SpiduhBMX: So
  189. [2:39:33 AM] Zealtsy: YOU GOT IT
  190. [2:39:36 AM] Zealtsy: FINALLY
  191. [2:39:42 AM] Zealtsy: THERE. CAN. NEVER. BE. NOTHING
  192. [2:39:57 AM] SpiduhBMX: What if instead of nothing, there was just blackness? Nothing besides blackness?
  193. [2:40:22 AM] SpiduhBMX: That thought is what terrifies me.
  194. [2:40:35 AM] Zealtsy: Then that blackness is a blank piece of paper that which is written on the world that we exist in
  195. [2:40:47 AM] Zealtsy: Here's the thought experiment OK
  196. [2:40:51 AM] SpiduhBMX: Ok
  197. [2:41:00 AM] Zealtsy: Say I'm in my house and I look at my shut front door from inside
  198. [2:41:21 AM] Zealtsy: I don't know what it is outside, but I can very well make up my own creation of what is outside
  199. [2:41:27 AM | Edited 2:41:35 AM] Zealtsy: But either way none of it is confirmable
  200. [2:41:43 AM] SpiduhBMX: It's like schroedingers cat.
  201. [2:41:47 AM] Zealtsy: Yep
  202. [2:41:50 AM] Zealtsy: It can be anything
  203. [2:42:03 AM] Zealtsy: in a superposiition of many states
  204. [2:42:16 AM] Zealtsy: That still means that what lies out there is nothing
  205. [2:42:19 AM] Zealtsy: Or rather
  206. [2:42:21 AM] Zealtsy: everything
  207. [2:42:27 AM] Zealtsy: the idea to grasp here
  208. [2:42:30 AM] Zealtsy: is that there is no nothing
  209. [2:42:36 AM] Zealtsy: but that nothing refers to everything
  210. [2:42:39 AM] Zealtsy: nothing = everything
  211. [2:42:52 AM] Zealtsy: So that means
  212. [2:43:00 AM] Zealtsy: My world
  213. [2:43:00 AM] SpiduhBMX: All is for naught.
  214. [2:43:06 AM] Zealtsy: My world is everything
  215. [2:43:17 AM] Zealtsy: THIS MEANS THAT I KNOW EVERY FACT IN THE WORLD
  216. [2:43:22 AM] Zealtsy: BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN MY PERCEPTIBLE WORLD
  217. [2:43:33 AM] Zealtsy: the world I perceive has everything in it
  218. [2:43:42 AM] Zealtsy: There is not anything I don't know
  219. [2:43:44 AM] Zealtsy: I know everything
  220. [2:43:47 AM] Zealtsy: You know everything
  221. [2:43:53 AM] Zealtsy: However
  222. [2:44:08 AM] SpiduhBMX: But, what if you know that there is more out there?
  223. [2:44:17 AM] Zealtsy: We like to create illusions, like say, "I don't know <this> or <that>"
  224. [2:44:22 AM] SpiduhBMX: I see exactly what you are saying, and it makes sense.
  225. [2:44:22 AM] Zealtsy: THEN THAT IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW LOL
  226. [2:44:27 AM] Zealtsy: IT'SJUST A SERIES OF WORDS
  227. [2:44:30 AM] Zealtsy: WEJFAEIUBFSEYIBFDEZHF
  228. [2:44:34 AM] Zealtsy: xD
  229. [2:44:36 AM] SpiduhBMX: xD
  230. [2:44:43 AM] Zealtsy: Man
  231. [2:44:44 AM] SpiduhBMX: So
  232. [2:44:50 AM] SpiduhBMX: I know that there is more out there
  233. [2:44:53 AM] Zealtsy: When you said you don't know everything about spiders
  234. [2:44:55 AM] SpiduhBMX: But until I learn more
  235. [2:45:03 AM] SpiduhBMX: I know everything.
  236. [2:45:11 AM] SpiduhBMX: and when I learn mpore
  237. [2:45:13 AM] Zealtsy: I knew you were deluding yourself to not knowing
  238. [2:45:16 AM] SpiduhBMX: I still know everything.
  239. [2:45:17 AM] Zealtsy: here let me explain to you
  240. [2:45:24 AM] Zealtsy: When you make a statement as a thought in your head
  241. [2:45:34 AM] Zealtsy: Let me give you my example again I said to you before
  242. [2:45:44 AM] Zealtsy: When I was driving in my white toyota highlander, right?
  243. [2:45:51 AM] Zealtsy: It was the first time I was driving in it
  244. [2:45:53 AM] SpiduhBMX: First time I heard this one.
  245. [2:46:00 AM] Zealtsy: Okay
  246. [2:46:00 AM] Zealtsy: Well
  247. [2:46:07 AM] Zealtsy: When I first drove it
  248. [2:46:10 AM] Zealtsy: I thought something in my head
  249. [2:46:13 AM] Zealtsy: That said
  250. [2:46:33 AM] Zealtsy: 'This is a special occasion!'
  251. [2:46:40 AM] Zealtsy: Now
  252. [2:46:51 AM] SpiduhBMX: But, in reality, it's nothing?
  253. [2:46:52 AM] Zealtsy: I decided to take a glance outside the window
  254. [2:46:56 AM] Zealtsy: Not done yet
  255. [2:47:00 AM] SpiduhBMX: It's actually everything : 3
  256. [2:47:03 AM] SpiduhBMX: Ok, sorry
  257. [2:47:15 AM] Zealtsy: I saw another white toyota highlander driving in the next lane to me
  258. [2:47:22 AM] Zealtsy: the same exact model
  259. [2:47:26 AM] Zealtsy: the same exact color
  260. [2:47:28 AM] Zealtsy: pearl white
  261. [2:47:41 AM] Zealtsy: everything was exactly the same
  262. [2:47:43 AM] Zealtsy: as mine
  263. [2:47:47 AM] Zealtsy: ISN'T THAT CRAZY
  264. [2:47:57 AM] Zealtsy: But no it's not
  265. [2:47:59 AM] Zealtsy: Lemme tell you why
  266. [2:48:08 AM | Edited 2:48:15 AM] SpiduhBMX: Well, i'd think that's amazing
  267. [2:48:11 AM] Zealtsy: It's not magical or mystical
  268. [2:48:13 AM] Zealtsy: the truth is
  269. [2:48:38 AM] Zealtsy: Let's skip two months later
  270. [2:48:48 AM] Zealtsy: Where I'm still driving my white toyota highlander
  271. [2:48:53 AM] Zealtsy: However this time
  272. [2:49:01 AM] Zealtsy: I don't think anymore that it's a special occasion
  273. [2:49:05 AM] Zealtsy: it's normal now
  274. [2:49:07 AM] Zealtsy: right?
  275. [2:49:10 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yeah
  276. [2:49:18 AM] Zealtsy: But outside I don't notice anymore white toyota highlander
  277. [2:49:28 AM] Zealtsy: However
  278. [2:49:43 AM] Zealtsy: there are white toyota highlanders still driving somewhere at some place
  279. [2:49:52 AM] Zealtsy: and one could very well be outside my window
  280. [2:50:11 AM] Zealtsy: HOWEVER I WOULD ONLY HAVE SAW IT THERE IF I THOUGHT HOW SPECIAL OF AN OCCASION IT WAS TO DRIVE MY OWN
  281. [2:50:20 AM] Zealtsy: AND WHEN I THINK IT'S NORMAL I DON'T NOTICE ANY
  282. [2:50:37 AM] SpiduhBMX: I see what you mean
  283. [2:50:41 AM] Zealtsy: When you make a thought that says you don't know <this> or <that>
  284. [2:50:47 AM] Zealtsy: GUESS WHAT HAPPENS
  285. [2:50:56 AM] Zealtsy: YOU THEN REALLY DON'T KNOW <THIS> OR <THAT>
  286. [2:51:00 AM] SpiduhBMX: Like, I never noticed motorcycles before. When I started getting into motorcycles, they're EVERYWHERE.
  287. [2:51:06 AM] Zealtsy: THIS MEANS WE'RE GODS AND OUR THOUGHTS COMMAND OUR PERCEPTION
  288. [2:51:11 AM] Zealtsy: XD
  289. [2:51:33 AM] Zealtsy: There you go
  290. [2:51:35 AM] Zealtsy: Because
  291. [2:51:44 AM] Zealtsy: If what we can't 'see' is in all infinite states, right?
  292. [2:51:52 AM] Zealtsy: meaning that this state could exist as well as that state
  293. [2:51:59 AM] Zealtsy: then depending on what we think, that state is brought to us
  294. [2:52:03 AM] Zealtsy: from the infinite pool
  295. [2:52:12 AM] Zealtsy: we are literally choosing what state of the world will exist
  296. [2:52:17 AM] Zealtsy: do you understand this?
  297. [2:52:36 AM] SpiduhBMX: A bit.
  298. [2:52:50 AM] SpiduhBMX: Your wording is a little confusing to me.
  299. [2:52:53 AM | Edited 2:52:57 AM] SpiduhBMX: TBH
  300. [2:52:57 AM] Zealtsy: Language is how we build the world
  301. [2:53:31 AM] SpiduhBMX: So, your saying
  302. [2:53:33 AM] Zealtsy: Using words and statements in our thoughts is how we find certain things in the world
  303. [2:53:51 AM] Zealtsy: and even "to not find something on purpose" is something we can decide
  304. [2:54:07 AM] Zealtsy: So when you state that "I don't know much about spiders" you have decided that you don't anymore
  305. [2:54:16 AM] Zealtsy: Do you understand?
  306. [2:54:20 AM] SpiduhBMX: My greatest fear of having a car run a red light, smack me on the side and kill me while riding a motorcycle, if I continue thinking of that, that will be my downfall? I will make it be?
  307. [2:54:30 AM] Zealtsy: Nah
  308. [2:54:39 AM] Zealtsy: Because you're stating what your greatest fear is
  309. [2:54:44 AM] Zealtsy: Think of what you're stating here
  310. [2:54:50 AM] Zealtsy: If you state that
  311. [2:54:55 AM] Zealtsy: "I will die from a car crash"
  312. [2:55:05 AM] Zealtsy: Then you will see that happen around you
  313. [2:55:19 AM] Zealtsy: and you might even make it a reality by making it happen from whatever action you take
  314. [2:55:31 AM] Zealtsy: But
  315. [2:55:48 AM] Zealtsy: your thoughts' statement there is 'my greatest fear is <this>'
  316. [2:56:01 AM] Zealtsy: so really it just refers to your fear, not an event
  317. [2:56:05 AM] Zealtsy: happening
  318. [2:56:07 AM] Zealtsy: do you understand?
  319. [2:56:15 AM] Zealtsy: fears don't turn to events
  320. [2:56:21 AM] Zealtsy: That's a big mistake to think that
  321. [2:56:30 AM] Zealtsy: that's what will make it turn into an event anyways
  322. [2:56:50 AM] Zealtsy: Fears are psychological self-defense mechanisms to make the person find a happy place
  323. [2:57:02 AM] Zealtsy: By having a fear, it's like pain where you are forced to treat it
  324. [2:57:13 AM] Zealtsy: let's say you had no pain receptor
  325. [2:57:18 AM] Zealtsy: or that you felt no pain
  326. [2:57:18 AM] Zealtsy: Okay
  327. [2:57:33 AM] Zealtsy: When you have internal bleeding all of the sudden, what will save your life if you had no pain?
  328. [2:57:38 AM] Zealtsy: this is the same for fears
  329. [2:57:39 AM] SpiduhBMX: But I have a happy place that I want to achieve, yet my fears are holding me back from achieving it.
  330. [2:57:57 AM] Zealtsy: what will save your life from an event if you don't have any fears of that event?
  331. [2:58:03 AM] Zealtsy: Lol...
  332. [2:58:08 AM] SpiduhBMX: Hmm
  333. [2:58:14 AM] SpiduhBMX: So deep.
  334. [2:58:33 AM] Zealtsy: Man this all makes sense to me and I know me saying all this doesn't nail it into your head that well
  335. [2:58:35 AM] SpiduhBMX: So, you should fear everything?
  336. [2:58:46 AM] Zealtsy: No that's impossible
  337. [2:59:18 AM] SpiduhBMX: True.
  338. [2:59:22 AM] Zealtsy: What we fear is nothing, and that's only because we forgot that nothing = everything
  339. [2:59:27 AM] Zealtsy: meaning
  340. [2:59:44 AM] Zealtsy: In a perfect world, we accept that nothing = everything, and then all fears are erased as a result
  341. [3:00:01 AM] Zealtsy: we fear what we don't know, but what we don't know is a claim we make that makes it true
  342. [3:00:32 AM] Zealtsy: I know none of this is going to convince you, but hopefully it'll guide you into the right mindset some day : P
  343. [3:00:40 AM] Zealtsy: SubaHibi taught me all this btw
  344. [3:00:44 AM] SpiduhBMX: It's not that i'm not being convinced
  345. [3:01:03 AM] SpiduhBMX: I'm being extremely open minded. I'm trying my best.
  346. [3:01:14 AM] SpiduhBMX: I'm just slow at understanding these sort of things.
  347. [3:01:26 AM] Zealtsy: I'm just slow at understanding these sort of things.You did it again right here man
  348. [3:01:31 AM] SpiduhBMX: Lol
  349. [3:01:32 AM] Zealtsy: IF YOU SAY THAT IT MEANS
  350. [3:01:37 AM] Zealtsy: YOU WILL BE SLOW AT UNDERSTANDING IT
  351. [3:01:43 AM] Zealtsy: SASUGA HUMANS
  352. [3:01:57 AM] SpiduhBMX: I'm really good and fast at understanding these sort of things.
  353. [3:02:21 AM] SpiduhBMX: Doesn't work that way, huh :c
  354. [3:02:24 AM] Zealtsy: Lol you know what happens when you add a negative 6 to a positive 6, right?
  355. [3:02:32 AM] Zealtsy: what do you get?
  356. [3:02:36 AM] SpiduhBMX: 0
  357. [3:02:39 AM] Zealtsy: yup
  358. [3:02:43 AM] Zealtsy: when you said the negativew
  359. [3:02:46 AM] Zealtsy: and then you said the positive
  360. [3:02:47 AM] Zealtsy: 0
  361. [3:03:01 AM] Zealtsy: if you were to say it again now then it would be multiplication
  362. [3:03:21 AM] Zealtsy: positive 6 x 0 = ?
  363. [3:03:27 AM] SpiduhBMX: 0.
  364. [3:03:29 AM] Zealtsy: You have to stop this convo entirely
  365. [3:03:37 AM] Zealtsy: start afresh
  366. [3:03:49 AM] Zealtsy: and then make the statement from the depths of your heart
  367. [3:03:59 AM] Zealtsy: and then it becomes real and of positive value
  368. [3:04:01 AM] SpiduhBMX: But doing that would require starting a new life.
  369. [3:04:11 AM] Zealtsy: ugh dude this is why we sleep
  370. [3:04:20 AM] Zealtsy: we sleep because it resets everything
  371. [3:04:31 AM] Zealtsy: ughh this is going to get into subconscious theory ...
  372. [3:04:37 AM] Zealtsy: but anyways
  373. [3:04:37 AM] SpiduhBMX: Keep going
  374. [3:04:44 AM] SpiduhBMX: I want to learn
  375. [3:04:45 AM] Zealtsy: the 'world' resets when you sleep
  376. [3:04:55 AM] Zealtsy: what I mean by the world
  377. [3:04:59 AM] Zealtsy: Is your world
  378. [3:05:06 AM] SpiduhBMX: But the world as I see it doesn't change.
  379. [3:05:12 AM] Zealtsy: yup
  380. [3:05:23 AM] Zealtsy: but that has nothing to do with the thoughts you make ok?
  381. [3:05:27 AM] SpiduhBMX: Ok
  382. [3:05:33 AM] Zealtsy: the thoughts you make are independent of yourself
  383. [3:05:58 AM | Edited 3:06:04 AM] Zealtsy: THE THOUGHTS YOU MAKE ARE A SEPARATE THING FROM YOUR OWN SELF
  384. [3:06:01 AM] SpiduhBMX: So, I can't just wake up and be in Akihabara. Where my body lays, is where I wake up.
  385. [3:06:10 AM] Zealtsy: Mhmm
  386. [3:06:15 AM] SpiduhBMX: Is where my world comes back to.
  387. [3:06:18 AM] Zealtsy: but your thoughts change completely the next day
  388. [3:06:27 AM] Zealtsy: you stay the same, your thoughts don't
  389. [3:06:39 AM] SpiduhBMX: They don't?
  390. [3:06:43 AM] Zealtsy: nope they don't
  391. [3:06:49 AM] Zealtsy: they change
  392. [3:06:59 AM] Zealtsy: Lol dude if our thought stayed the same
  393. [3:07:09 AM] Zealtsy: then I would have forever been a baby
  394. [3:07:24 AM] SpiduhBMX: Forever 6 years old.
  395. [3:07:30 AM] Zealtsy: somehting like that
  396. [3:07:36 AM] Zealtsy: This is all really simple
  397. [3:08:08 AM] SpiduhBMX: ( I chose 6 because that's when they say you become conscious)
  398. [3:08:46 AM] Zealtsy: And where do you think consciousness comes from/is a result from?
  399. [3:08:59 AM] Zealtsy: subconscious
  400. [3:09:27 AM] Zealtsy: Anyways
  401. [3:09:29 AM] Zealtsy: The point is
  402. [3:09:40 AM] SpiduhBMX: But when do I enter my subconscious? Dreams?
  403. [3:09:42 AM] Zealtsy: When a new days comes
  404. [3:09:54 AM] Zealtsy: Your thoughts are just as new as that day
  405. [3:10:02 AM] Zealtsy: That means
  406. [3:10:11 AM] Zealtsy: Your thoughts can change the world around you just as newly
  407. [3:10:27 AM] Zealtsy: Here I can even prove it to you
  408. [3:10:31 AM] Zealtsy: I guess depending
  409. [3:10:51 AM] Zealtsy: Ever have that feeling when you're trying to remember something but can't?
  410. [3:11:33 AM] SpiduhBMX: Say I could go to bed thinking this house is just a horrible, trashy, trailer where the roof is probably going to collapse at some point, and wake up thinking it's an amazing house.
  411. [3:11:43 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yeah, and then you remember it later.
  412. [3:11:50 AM] SpiduhBMX: But at that point it's irrelevant.
  413. [3:11:56 AM] Zealtsy: lol... baka
  414. [3:11:59 AM] SpiduhBMX: (generally)\
  415. [3:12:00 AM] Zealtsy: baka baka baka baka baka
  416. [3:12:08 AM] Zealtsy: ._.
  417. [3:12:17 AM] Zealtsy: The point though
  418. [3:12:20 AM] SpiduhBMX: Conversation wise.
  419. [3:12:44 AM] Zealtsy: You always inevitably ultimately remember it later
  420. [3:12:53 AM] Zealtsy: This is how our thoughts reset
  421. [3:13:07 AM] Zealtsy: You originally can't remember it because you keep trying to remember it
  422. [3:13:29 AM] Zealtsy: and when you keep trying to remember it, you're making this thought in your head that say: "I can't remember this so I'll try"
  423. [3:13:46 AM] Zealtsy: and as a result it makes it so you can't remember it and then you get caught in an endless cycle of trying
  424. [3:13:54 AM] Zealtsy: until you 'reset; somewhere along the way
  425. [3:14:04 AM] Zealtsy: via a new day or a new thread of thoughts
  426. [3:14:10 AM] Zealtsy: Do you understand?
  427. [3:14:18 AM] SpiduhBMX: As in, sleeping, or doing something that makes you forget you were trying to remember.
  428. [3:14:22 AM] Zealtsy: YESS
  429. [3:14:23 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yeah
  430. [3:14:25 AM] Zealtsy: YES YES YES YES
  431. [3:14:30 AM] Zealtsy: THIS IS THE THOUGHT RESET
  432. [3:14:39 AM] Zealtsy: anyways
  433. [3:14:56 AM] Zealtsy: You may say you don't know everything about spiders now or perhaps again and again and again
  434. [3:15:06 AM] Zealtsy: But then each 'again'
  435. [3:15:10 AM] Zealtsy: it changes little by little
  436. [3:15:23 AM] Zealtsy: until finally you decide to change your thoughts over completely
  437. [3:15:43 AM] Zealtsy: to say something like 'I am the best at knowledge on spiders' in your thoughts
  438. [3:15:50 AM] SpiduhBMX: So basically
  439. [3:16:04 AM] Zealtsy: You will make it a reality when this happens
  440. [3:16:11 AM] SpiduhBMX: If I say "I don't know much about spiders" And truly believe that
  441. [3:16:24 AM] SpiduhBMX: Then I will not be able to recall as much about spiders
  442. [3:16:28 AM] Zealtsy: Yup
  443. [3:16:37 AM] SpiduhBMX: But if I truly believe I know a lot about spiders
  444. [3:16:47 AM] SpiduhBMX: I will be able to recall more about spiders.
  445. [3:16:57 AM] Zealtsy: yes
  446. [3:17:05 AM] Zealtsy: You will recall 'a lot' about spiders
  447. [3:17:11 AM] Zealtsy: if you believe you will
  448. [3:17:11 AM] SpiduhBMX: So basically, you should live your life as a Know-It-All
  449. [3:17:14 AM] Zealtsy: mhmm
  450. [3:17:21 AM] Zealtsy: which just translates to
  451. [3:17:25 AM] Zealtsy: "live your life at the fullest'
  452. [3:17:39 AM] Zealtsy: Don't ever stand for being 2nd place or anything lower
  453. [3:17:56 AM] Zealtsy: as soon as you get your hopes up, you create the opposite of hope
  454. [3:17:57 AM] Zealtsy: despair
  455. [3:18:10 AM] SpiduhBMX: And I see that every day
  456. [3:18:14 AM] SpiduhBMX: When I play Osu.
  457. [3:18:28 AM] SpiduhBMX: I feel "I'm really starting to slowly get better"
  458. [3:18:31 AM] Zealtsy: yea even the simplest most trivial things can affect this
  459. [3:18:46 AM] SpiduhBMX: And then I end up later going "I can't play for shit"
  460. [3:19:47 AM] SpiduhBMX: So instead of bashing myself, or being happy that i'm slowly getting better at osu.
  461. [3:19:57 AM] SpiduhBMX: I need to focus myself on becoming #1
  462. [3:21:09 AM] SpiduhBMX: Because (I'll need a mind reset) currently I am shit at osu. But my goal is to be #1 for a day.
  463. [3:22:21 AM] Zealtsy: Or just to be the best you can be
  464. [3:22:29 AM] Zealtsy: I mean, there is a point where it gets idealistic
  465. [3:22:53 AM] Zealtsy: What that means
  466. [3:23:03 AM] SpiduhBMX: You believe you will become #1
  467. [3:23:10 AM] SpiduhBMX: But it makes you improve slower?
  468. [3:23:15 AM] Zealtsy: Yea
  469. [3:23:22 AM] Zealtsy: Because it's further idealistic
  470. [3:23:53 AM] Zealtsy: 'Idealistic' means that deliberating picking a super close-to-impossible goal
  471. [3:24:00 AM] Zealtsy: and some people even pick impossible goals
  472. [3:24:19 AM] Zealtsy: and that makes them not ever achieve it and then keep saying later how they'll never achieve it ever
  473. [3:24:23 AM] Zealtsy: and then they fall into despair
  474. [3:24:24 AM] SpiduhBMX: (Such as becoming #1 on Osu :P I'm not Korean so...)
  475. [3:24:34 AM] Zealtsy: Really
  476. [3:24:39 AM] Zealtsy: You should aim for things like
  477. [3:24:49 AM] Zealtsy: 'becoming better than my friend'
  478. [3:24:51 AM] Zealtsy: That's better
  479. [3:24:53 AM] SpiduhBMX: "Become as good as Zealty"
  480. [3:24:57 AM] Zealtsy: YES
  481. [3:24:59 AM] Zealtsy: YES YES YES
  482. [3:25:04 AM] Zealtsy: you should aim for that instead lol
  483. [3:25:32 AM] SpiduhBMX: Then I shall >: D
  484. [3:25:34 AM] Zealtsy: Ok let's go over something
  485. [3:25:48 AM] Zealtsy: Remember that every thought you make affects the world
  486. [3:26:00 AM] Zealtsy: so it starts turning into like a web
  487. [3:26:13 AM] Zealtsy: when you make a thought like "being #1 is impossible"
  488. [3:26:36 AM] SpiduhBMX: It draws you further from that goal?
  489. [3:26:41 AM] Zealtsy: and then a thought of "I am becoming better at osu all the time"
  490. [3:26:53 AM] Zealtsy: because you truly believe that you will be #1
  491. [3:26:58 AM] Zealtsy: see the contradiction here?
  492. [3:27:11 AM] SpiduhBMX: True.
  493. [3:27:17 AM] Zealtsy: You created the reality that being #1 is impossible, yet you believe you will become #1 and then get better at Osu
  494. [3:27:27 AM] Zealtsy: THIS MEANS YOU WON'T GET BETTER AT ALL, BUT INSTEAD GET WORSE
  495. [3:27:38 AM] Zealtsy: a thought that came before can affect another thought
  496. [3:27:41 AM] Zealtsy: in other words
  497. [3:27:47 AM] Zealtsy: so make sure you trace your thoughts too
  498. [3:28:16 AM] Zealtsy: if you think it's impossible to become #1, then the new thought has to fit with what isn't impossible ok?
  499. [3:28:23 AM] Zealtsy: Get it?
  500. [3:28:42 AM] Zealtsy: and you probably do believe it is impossible to become #1 yet possible to be as good as me
  501. [3:28:51 AM] SpiduhBMX: then the new thought has to fit with what isn't impossible ok?This confused me, but mostly.
  502. [3:28:52 AM] Zealtsy: so you should aim for becoming as good as me because it is possible to you : P
  503. [3:29:30 AM] SpiduhBMX: and you probably do believe it is impossible to become #1 yet possible to be as good as meYep. You are correct there.
  504. [3:29:47 AM] Zealtsy: SO DO WHAT IS POSSIBLE LOL
  505. [3:29:52 AM] SpiduhBMX: Lol
  506. [3:29:53 AM] Zealtsy: DON'T DO WHAT IS IMPOSSIBLE
  507. [3:30:13 AM] Zealtsy: Truth is whatever you want it to be
  508. [3:30:17 AM] Zealtsy: People see what they want to see
  509. [3:30:36 AM] Zealtsy: So if something is impossible to you, that means it's really impossible
  510. [3:31:09 AM] SpiduhBMX: (I just put the "It's not impossible, but it will take time" thought in my head")
  511. [3:31:19 AM] Zealtsy: that's okay for now
  512. [3:31:28 AM] Zealtsy: later on you will modify it
  513. [3:31:35 AM] Zealtsy: dw there is no way you can regress in this way
  514. [3:31:40 AM] Zealtsy: you will always improve on that thought
  515. [3:32:11 AM] SpiduhBMX: So if something is impossible to you, that means it's really impossibleThis makes sense.
  516. [3:32:49 AM] Zealtsy: If it makes sense, then it means it's true
  517. [3:32:55 AM] Zealtsy: What makes sense is true, btw
  518. [3:33:22 AM] SpiduhBMX: That also makes sense to me, Lol
  519. [3:33:48 AM] Zealtsy: Hehehe now you're getting it ^_^
  520. [3:35:19 AM] *** SpiduhBMX tried to make an example but failed >.< ***
  521. [3:35:40 AM] Zealtsy: SubaHibi has all of this type of stuff in it btw
  522. [3:35:49 AM] Zealtsy: I learned it from suba actually
  523. [3:36:24 AM] SpiduhBMX: If only it didn't have forced BL blowjobs. Swarms of insects? And extreme bullying >.<
  524. [3:36:50 AM] SpiduhBMX: But i'm sure those are a main part of telling all of this.
  525. [3:36:54 AM] Zealtsy: Yep they are
  526. [3:37:11 AM] Zealtsy: These scenes are there to show you what not to do that causes those situations I guess lol
  527. [3:37:29 AM] SpiduhBMX: Oh what?
  528. [3:37:39 AM] SpiduhBMX: Vn life advice?
  529. [3:37:58 AM] Zealtsy: No, you'll see when you read it
  530. [3:38:02 AM] Zealtsy: I don't want to say anymore
  531. [3:38:09 AM] SpiduhBMX: Wait... Let me just ask
  532. [3:38:57 AM] SpiduhBMX: Is the "show you what not to do that causes those situations" part, philosophical, or real world things. Like, if you touch a stove while it's on, you will get burnt.
  533. [3:39:17 AM] SpiduhBMX: Or philosophical being like
  534. [3:39:55 AM] Zealtsy: philosophical
  535. [3:40:00 AM] SpiduhBMX: "Think this way and you'll be forced to give a guy a blowjob while crossdressing"
  536. [3:40:05 AM] Zealtsy: yes yes'
  537. [3:40:07 AM] Zealtsy: exactly
  538. [3:40:13 AM] SpiduhBMX: O.O
  539. [3:41:07 AM] Zealtsy: It also shows facets to certain situations and how to handle them as a result
  540. [3:41:18 AM] Zealtsy: for example, that scene is during bullying
  541. [3:41:46 AM] SpiduhBMX: that scene is during bullyingI kinda guessed that.
  542. [3:41:48 AM] Zealtsy: and it's showing how he believed he would be bullied all the time so then it always happened
  543. [3:42:09 AM] SpiduhBMX: Wait...
  544. [3:42:19 AM] SpiduhBMX: We went over this though.
  545. [3:42:34 AM] SpiduhBMX: He believed he would be bullied so he was
  546. [3:42:42 AM] Zealtsy: Mhmm
  547. [3:43:05 AM] SpiduhBMX: I fear of being hit by a car on a motorcycle, so will I be? Or does fear =/= belief
  548. [3:43:21 AM] SpiduhBMX: Such as
  549. [3:43:37 AM] SpiduhBMX: Even a more "extreme" thing I have is
  550. [3:43:54 AM] SpiduhBMX: I live near an airport. Jets fly over all the time.
  551. [3:44:04 AM] Zealtsy: fear =/= belief
  552. [3:44:09 AM] SpiduhBMX: But I always fear when I hear them
  553. [3:44:13 AM] Zealtsy: fear =/= belief
  554. [3:44:17 AM] Zealtsy: fear =/= belief
  555. [3:44:20 AM] SpiduhBMX: I become scared, and shut off my mind.
  556. [3:44:28 AM] Zealtsy: fear =/= belief
  557. [3:44:35 AM] Zealtsy: fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  558.  
  559. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  560.  
  561. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  562.  
  563. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  564.  
  565. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  566.  
  567. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  568.  
  569. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  570.  
  571. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  572.  
  573. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  574.  
  575. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  576.  
  577. <<< fear =/= belief[3:44 AM] Zealtsy:
  578.  
  579. <<< fear =/= belief
  580. [3:44:43 AM] Zealtsy: ._.
  581. [3:45:09 AM | Edited 3:45:41 AM] SpiduhBMX: Because I fear that, that's not a jet. That's a bomb that has been dropped. I'm going to die. / That plane is going to crash into my house. I'm going to die.
  582. [3:45:22 AM] SpiduhBMX: fear =/= beliefOk :P
  583. [3:46:16 AM] SpiduhBMX: So
  584. [3:46:34 AM] SpiduhBMX: I'd have to believe 100% that if I get on a motorcycle, I will be killed.
  585. [3:46:40 AM] Zealtsy: Yea
  586. [3:46:47 AM] SpiduhBMX: But I don't believe that.
  587. [3:46:49 AM] Zealtsy: Exactly
  588. [3:46:54 AM] Zealtsy: Fude
  589. [3:47:02 AM] SpiduhBMX: I know my chances of being killed are raised QUITE A BIT
  590. [3:47:16 AM] SpiduhBMX: But I know that doesn't mean I WILL die
  591. [3:47:50 AM] Zealtsy: Fear is not belief, because fear is instantaneous
  592. [3:48:01 AM] Zealtsy: and belief extends over periods of time
  593. [3:48:13 AM] Zealtsy: fear happens in the moment
  594. [3:48:15 AM] Zealtsy: and belief doesn't
  595. [3:48:25 AM] Zealtsy: that means
  596. [3:48:29 AM] Zealtsy: fear only affects the moment
  597. [3:48:33 AM] Zealtsy: and belief only affects the future
  598. [3:48:34 AM] SpiduhBMX: That makes sense.
  599. [3:48:37 AM] Zealtsy: Get it?
  600. [3:48:40 AM] Zealtsy: Okay awesome
  601. [3:48:41 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yep.
  602. [3:49:00 AM] SpiduhBMX: You can't fear something forever.
  603. [3:49:12 AM] SpiduhBMX: You will at some point forget that you feared it
  604. [3:49:17 AM] SpiduhBMX: If only for a little while.
  605. [3:49:35 AM] Zealtsy: More like as soon as you move on to a new thought, you stop fearing something
  606. [3:49:38 AM] SpiduhBMX: But you always believe something.
  607. [3:49:39 AM] Zealtsy: also I should make this clear
  608. [3:49:41 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yeah
  609. [3:49:49 AM] Zealtsy: fear =/= a thought
  610. [3:49:58 AM] Zealtsy: as soon as you make a new thought
  611. [3:50:03 AM] SpiduhBMX: It's an emotion?
  612. [3:50:06 AM] Zealtsy: you distracted yourself from fearing something
  613. [3:50:11 AM] Zealtsy: yes it's a sensibility more like
  614. [3:53:53 AM] SpiduhBMX: I guess that goes with any emotion, huh?
  615. [3:55:21 AM] SpiduhBMX: Love, hate, jealousy, envy, happiness, sadness. Once you stop thinking about it, it isn't there.
  616. [3:55:52 AM] Zealtsy: Exactly
  617. [3:55:59 AM] Zealtsy: You get it : D
  618. [3:56:04 AM] SpiduhBMX: :D
  619. [3:56:35 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yey I feel good now
  620. [3:56:40 AM] SpiduhBMX: I know more :D
  621. [3:56:48 AM] Zealtsy: Yup
  622. [3:56:55 AM] Zealtsy: Or what this is not knowing more simply
  623. [3:56:57 AM] SpiduhBMX: But, I still know everything.
  624. [3:57:00 AM] Zealtsy: It's even greater than that
  625. [3:57:08 AM] Zealtsy: It's the capability to know more
  626. [3:57:27 AM] Zealtsy: Meaning, with this understood, you can understand your own thoughts better and control them even
  627. [3:57:37 AM] Zealtsy: and with that, you can predict other peoples' thoughts
  628. [3:57:43 AM] Zealtsy: and then understand them too
  629. [3:57:54 AM] Zealtsy: and in the end you can grasp information better
  630. [3:58:00 AM] Zealtsy: like wikipedia articles made by other people
  631. [3:58:09 AM] Zealtsy: you can put yourself into others' shoes
  632. [3:58:18 AM] Zealtsy: etc. etc. you can potentially read dies irae better
  633. [3:58:23 AM] Zealtsy: you can read japanese better
  634. [3:58:27 AM] Zealtsy: you can do anything better
  635. [3:58:37 AM] Zealtsy: because everything in the world is ultimately made up of someone's thoughts
  636. [3:58:43 AM] Zealtsy: Do you get it? : D
  637. [3:59:16 AM] Zealtsy: with this you can also extend your own motivation and patience levels
  638. [3:59:31 AM] Zealtsy: you can figure out what motivates you, and then when you have enough patience
  639. [3:59:40 AM] Zealtsy: so then you can do anything you want
  640. [3:59:46 AM] Zealtsy: like learn japanese in under a month
  641. [3:59:50 AM] Zealtsy: or other stuff you want to do
  642. [3:59:56 AM] Zealtsy: it depends on what you want to do
  643. [3:59:57 AM] SpiduhBMX: Yeah, I get it. Slightly confused a tiiiiny bit.
  644. [4:00:02 AM] SpiduhBMX: Well
  645. [4:00:07 AM] SpiduhBMX: I wouldn't say confused
  646. [4:00:17 AM] SpiduhBMX: I just need to re-read this a few times over.
  647. [4:00:19 AM] Zealtsy: everything in the world originally comes from thoughts of people
  648. [4:00:24 AM] SpiduhBMX: Drill it into my mind.
  649. [4:00:25 AM] Zealtsy: okay
  650. [4:00:45 AM] Zealtsy: that means that everything can be understood if you understand how thoughts work
  651. [4:00:58 AM] Zealtsy: If you understand how thoughts work, which is exactly what I explained to you
  652. [4:01:01 AM] Zealtsy: then you can predict thoughts
  653. [4:01:19 AM] Zealtsy: and then thoughts lead to people's creations, right?
  654. [4:01:29 AM] Zealtsy: you can understand the creations if you understand the thought behind it
  655. [4:01:34 AM] Zealtsy: etc.
  656. [4:02:05 AM | Edited 4:02:19 AM] Zealtsy: everything in the world are people's creations, and those came from their thoughts
  657. [4:02:38 AM] Zealtsy: and their thoughts can be understand when you understands how thoughts work in general
  658. [4:02:55 AM] Zealtsy: and then you can also understand your own thoughts too as a result
  659. [4:03:05 AM] SpiduhBMX: I see.
  660. [4:04:21 AM] Zealtsy: Well I have to go
  661. [4:04:28 AM] SpiduhBMX: Ok
  662. [4:04:28 AM] Zealtsy: I hope you I opened your mind some more here ^_^
  663. [4:04:37 AM] SpiduhBMX: I believe I did.
  664. [4:04:51 AM] Zealtsy: Good
  665. [4:05:14 AM] SpiduhBMX: Thanks Zealtsy
  666. [4:05:32 AM] Zealtsy: Np
  667. [4:05:34 AM] SpiduhBMX: I really do enjoy these Philisophical talks.
  668. [4:05:44 AM] Zealtsy: There are a whole lot in SubaHibi too lol
  669. [4:05:54 AM] Zealtsy: But I do too
  670. [4:06:17 AM] SpiduhBMX: Well, I can't wait till it's TL'd.
  671. [4:06:41 AM] SpiduhBMX: Have a good night dude. o/
  672. [4:06:52 AM] SpiduhBMX: I think i'll be going to bed.
  673. [4:06:57 AM] Zealtsy: Night man
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