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  1. <topten3> Hello.
  2. <Casusby> are you our very own retard spammer
  3. <topten3> And that's what I would like to talk to you about.
  4. <topten3> Are you aware of what your mods are doing?
  5. <topten3> And how it is impossible to reason with them?
  6. <Casusby> Please do tell
  7. <topten3> Is it even worth the time, or will you just saying everything is an opinion and dismiss it?
  8. <Casusby> I'm willing to humour you for a bit
  9. <topten3> Thank you.
  10. <topten3> I'll try to keep it short then.
  11. <Casusby> You have quite the hurdle to climb considering your constant harassment of our forums and channel
  12. <topten3> I'll do do my best.
  13. <topten3> I'll start with something simple like this. I do a lot of scanlation. The most recent 8 doujin you uploaded were all scanned, typeset and translated by me. And I have a credits page on them that your uploaders removed simple because they don't like the message I have to tell.
  14. <Casusby> Having a credits page credited to only "me" isn't sufficent evidence of anything
  15. <topten3> It's still just the handle I choose to go by.
  16. <topten3> WHat reason is there to remove it?
  17. <topten3> You let credit pages like this slide.
  18. <topten3> http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/mahou_shoujo_no_kanchigai#27
  19. <topten3> And it's clear that credits page is implying something about this argument.
  20. <topten3> The difference is that credits page is by a person who is in favor of shipping that degrades the characters. Which is the position the mods take, so they're let that snide and petty credits page in, but not one the I made.
  21. <Casusby> probably because your page was incendiary by its very nature
  22. <topten3> Uh, no?
  23. <topten3> That's the crack credits page is.
  24. <topten3> That page was made to spite people who are against crack pairings.
  25. <topten3> My page was mildly worded, and nothing but a statement on reasoning.
  26. <topten3> There's nothing rude, crass, or insulting in it.
  27. <Casusby> Let me rephrase then
  28. <Casusby> It's incendiary to us because it will open the floodgates yet again to the kind of shit you stirred up in the first place and was banned for
  29. <Casusby> and that we do not want on the site
  30. <topten3> That's another things.
  31. <topten3> I don't even know what my "orginal ban" was for.
  32. <Casusby> Being overly aggressive against forum members
  33. <topten3> I got banned, was never told why, and when I try to ask you just flame me.
  34. <Casusby> Probably because you continue to evade that ban to this day and spam your shit at us
  35. <topten3> I have a question, can you see deleted posts on the forums?
  36. <Casusby> No, they are deleted
  37. <topten3> Well, darn.
  38. <topten3> There was a thread a few months back, and I was posting under the name "informativedude".
  39. <topten3> I was making the exact same argument I'm making now.
  40. <topten3> And I had people telling me it was a good thing that I was oppsoed o crack pairings, and that I was a very polite person.
  41. <topten3> Until the thread as a whole got deleted.
  42. <Casusby> That is probably not true but ok
  43. <topten3> I think I have most of the thread saved in a PSD file somewhere.
  44. <topten3> I'll dig it up later.
  45. <Casusby> That sort of level of action is usually consulted on with me and if I agreed to nuke it then it was a bad thread
  46. <topten3> Anyway.
  47. <topten3> The real problem is that you assume everyone who is against crack pairings is a single person.
  48. <Casusby> No, I don't care about that either way
  49. <Casusby> I'm sure there might have been others who agreed with you on that matter, but they weren't banned
  50. <Casusby> I wonder why
  51. <topten3> I keep a pretty close watch on things involving crack pairs.
  52. <topten3> And I've seen posts made by other people get deleted.
  53. <Casusby> Evidently it's your only thing in life
  54. <topten3> Not really.
  55. <topten3> But here's some examples of stuff.
  56. <topten3> http://puu.sh/gDs8A/449f54fa82.jpg
  57. <Casusby> I really don't want examples
  58. <topten3> This poster made an agressive post, and used the phrase "insulting to the canon".
  59. <topten3> Okay.
  60. <Casusby> Here's the deal
  61. <topten3> Then how do I prove to you that I'm a quality poster, and that you're mods are abusing their powers?
  62. <Casusby> You're not getting unbanned, and I'll thank you to respect that and to desist harrassing our forums and channel
  63. <Casusby> If you want us to remove those doujins then we will, we won't be putting them up with your credits however
  64. <topten3> Please do.
  65. <topten3> Though, you are more reasonable than most people.
  66. <topten3> I would rather discuss the subject with you more.
  67. <Casusby> I'd rather not
  68. <topten3> It's just I see no way to respect the fact I'm banned, because there is nothing wrong with my stance on the subject.
  69. <topten3> If you don't feel like doing it now I don't mind waiting until you have more time later.
  70. <Casusby> Irregardless of the circumstances of your original ban
  71. <Casusby> Your actions after have sealed your fate to never be reconsidered
  72. <Casusby> Causing us and myself personally headaches over the matter is not a way to win yourself over to people
  73. <topten3> But, the only time I took action was when the members in IRC directly insulted me.
  74. <Casusby> Considering the amount of times I've had to delete the ban evading accounts on the forums and having to ask the IRCOps for help here say otherwise
  75. <topten3> Wait, what?
  76. <topten3> I've only evaded bans a couple times, and every time it was to make some post about content involving insulting the characters.
  77. <Casusby> Yes? And that's still evading bans
  78. <topten3> I only make analytical comments.
  79. <Casusby> I don't care
  80. <topten3> And never insult people.
  81. <Casusby> You're evading bans
  82. <topten3> Which is what your IRC members do.
  83. <Casusby> I especially don't care about that
  84. <topten3> Okay. Then just answer me this, and I'll stop bothering you for a while.
  85. <Casusby> Evading bans in our channel and sending people in it walls of text in PMs is harrassment
  86. <topten3> If coming into IRC and requesting to make a post, before making it, is grounds to be banned, then what other method is there?
  87. <topten3> I have never posted on your site often, but the one post I did want to make was on the doujin from that credits page I linked before. And before making the post I came into IRC and asked a mod if it was okay to make the post because I knew the subject was inflammatory to some people. They said it was okay, so I then later made the post once the doujin was hosted on your site. Then as soon as I made the
  88. <topten3> post I was instantly banned. Then when I asked on IRC why I got banned I was flammed, then banned from IRC as well.
  89. <topten3> And this was before any ban evading.
  90. <topten3> And, from where I'm standing, getting banned and insulted for having a stance that the mods don't like is the real harrassment
  91. <Casusby> First of all
  92. <Casusby> Can you give me some proof that it was infact you doing the work on these doujins before I take down potentially someone else's work
  93. <topten3> Uh, will screen shots of the debinded doujin do?
  94. <Casusby> No
  95. <Casusby> PSDs would be sufficent
  96. <topten3> Oh, I can do that.
  97. <Casusby> Secondly, I will repeat
  98. <Casusby> Irregardless of the circumstances of your original ban
  99. <Casusby> That is your original ban on our forums so many months ago
  100. <Casusby> Your actions after to evade and continue to create accounts and then to come into our IRC and harrass several people both in the channel itself and through PMs with people
  101. <Casusby> and especially insulting people like Troid
  102. <Casusby> is unacceptable
  103. <topten3> Are you aware that Troid is a mod on 4chan?
  104. <Casusby> I do not care
  105. <Casusby> Unequivocally unacceptable
  106. <topten3> Well, the only reason I single him out is because he harrases people with his mod powers over 4chan.
  107. <topten3> Not that you should care about what happens on 4chan.
  108. <Casusby> The fact that it took this long for you to contact me on such matters instead of using guerilla tactics is mind bloggingly
  109. <topten3> But I have no other means on contacting him other than your channel.
  110. <topten3> To be honest, I thought you were a bot.
  111. <topten3> And on the day I got banned I tried talking to omnscient about it.
  112. <topten3> But nothing came of it.
  113. <topten3> I thought omnscient was the top mod.
  114. <Casusby> I would like those PSDs soon by the way
  115. <Casusby> I can't wait around all night for them
  116. <topten3> Sorry. I was just trying to pick good pages.
  117. <topten3> Onces that could not easily be copies.
  118. <topten3> copied*
  119. <Casusby> I would prefer all of them
  120. <topten3> Oh, then just give a second to upload.
  121. <topten3> This could take a minute.
  122. <topten3> The file is a couple gigs
  123. <topten3> Oh, never mind.
  124. <Casusby> ?
  125. <topten3> You just want the PSDs so you can change the fonts on pretend you did them yourself
  126. <topten3> I can prove I did them with a couple PSDs from each.
  127. <Casusby> The condition is all the PSDs
  128. <topten3> So you can change fonts or sometihng and claim you did them on your own.
  129. <topten3> So, who's the jackass here?
  130. <Casusby> Good question, but thanks for letting me know you're still in our channel
  131. <topten3> Okay, you can have the PSD's but just to be sure, I'm going to delete most of the typesetting from all of them.
  132. <topten3> Sound good?
  133. <topten3> But I guess this makes it clear I was wrong for trying to be reasonable with you.
  134. <topten3> Are you already /ignoring me?
  135. <Casusby> If you want to send them to me then please do
  136. <topten3> Fine, but my connection is not the best, and it's 3 gigs.
  137. <Casusby> how long do you estimate it to take
  138. <topten3> Like I said, I don't want to force you to do it.
  139. <topten3> So I'll leave you alone for now.
  140. <topten3> And pick it up later.
  141. <Casusby> No, I'd rather it be done with so I don't have to deal with you again
  142. <topten3> How about this then.
  143. <Casusby> yes?
  144. <topten3> Let me have a single (trial) account to work with, and give me a 25 to use at my discretion. If I say anything you don't approve of with those 25 posts I'll leave forever. No questions.
  145. <topten3> But you have to be fair and reasonable about what is acceptable.
  146. <Casusby> No
  147. <topten3> Counter offer?
  148. <topten3> Because you're not really being fair here.
  149. <Casusby> Why is giving you blessed access to our forum fair
  150. <Casusby> When you are banned for evading and gaining access to it
  151. <topten3> Why is banning someone for having a stance you don't like fair?
  152. <Casusby> I don't care about your stance
  153. <topten3> I only evaded because your mods were so rude and crass about how they ban me in the first place.
  154. <Casusby> That is an unacceptable reason
  155. <topten3> So I'm just suppose to accept being insulted and mocked?
  156. <Casusby> That reason is beyond stupid, acting in defiance and annoying the people you want to be heard from is not effective
  157. <Casusby> and here's the thing, I can't trust you, because of how many times you've evaded our bans and continue to be in our channel despite being banned multiple times
  158. <topten3> So then tell me.
  159. <topten3> What should I have done.
  160. <Casusby> PM me
  161. <Casusby> at the very start
  162. <topten3> To be fair.
  163. <Casusby> not now
  164. <topten3> Like I said, I tried to do that the day I was banned.
  165. <Casusby> No, you did not
  166. <topten3> But with omnscient
  167. <Casusby> All you had to do was come into the channel, ask to speak to the very top person
  168. <Casusby> Most probably I would have been out, and you just have to leave me a PM saying you want to talk
  169. <topten3> I was not aware you were the top mod.
  170. <Casusby> and I would get back to you
  171. <topten3> You can probably ask if for the logs.
  172. <topten3> I did try to talk to the top person.
  173. <Casusby> All you would have to do was ask and not bring up the grivences you had with the people to those people
  174. <topten3> But I got ignored and banned.
  175. <topten3> Well, the first time I was banned I had no idea who Troid was.
  176. <Casusby> Because you had already ban evaded our forums to the point where omn and I were already having headaches about you
  177. <topten3> Wait, when do you think my first ban was?
  178. <Casusby> So how are you surprised that people would ban you if you mention any fact to reveal yourself to be that person
  179. <Casusby> I do not have a specific date
  180. <Casusby> A long time ago
  181. <topten3> I can tell you the exact date.
  182. <topten3> The day this doujin was uploaded.
  183. <topten3> http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/mahou_shoujo_no_kanchigai#27
  184. <topten3> Because the only reason I even made an account was so I could comment on that.
  185. <Casusby> I don't see the relevance
  186. <Casusby> of that date
  187. <topten3> And I came into IRC that day and asked if I could make a post.
  188. <topten3> Because I didn't want to cause a problem.
  189. <topten3> Because I've seen posts about content being insulted to the characters get deleted on /u/ and /a/.
  190. <topten3> But now I know that's because of Troid.
  191. <topten3> And him censoring things he doesn't like.
  192. <topten3> Not because it was actually against any rule.
  193. <Casusby> I don't see the relevance of all this either
  194. <Casusby> because my problem with you is the ban evading
  195. <topten3> Right.
  196. <Casusby> I don't care about the before
  197. <topten3> And before that date I did not ban evade at all.
  198. <Casusby> Because you weren't banned
  199. <Casusby> IF, IF
  200. <Casusby> You were unfairly banned
  201. <Casusby> Your actions following negate ANY ground you had to stand on before that
  202. <topten3> My actions directly after the ban were to talk to omns
  203. <topten3> In PMs mind you.
  204. <Casusby> Again, what is the relevance
  205. <topten3> That I tried your way, and only got mocked and insulted more because of it.
  206. <Casusby> My way is talking directly to me
  207. <Casusby> You didn't
  208. <topten3> Like I said.
  209. <topten3> That's because I thought omns was the top mod.
  210. <Casusby> I don't know how that's remotely possible but okay
  211. <Casusby> Let's assume that was true
  212. <topten3> I thought you were like the Madokami bot yuri-ism's IRC has.
  213. <topten3> And I was never in the channel, so I'd never see you talk.
  214. <Casusby> Your actions under the assumption that omns was the top person are still unforgivable
  215. <Casusby> and the fact you continue to remain in our channel is proof that you have no intent of being honest
  216. <topten3> Tell you what.
  217. <topten3> I'm willing to show a hand of good faith.
  218. <topten3> Can you do the same?
  219. <topten3> Let's not forget you are/were planning to steal my work.
  220. <topten3> which is at like 43% by the way.
  221. <Casusby> You clearly do not know our history if you thought that was an actual thing that was going to happen
  222. <Casusby> That doesn't mean I don't still require proof to remove work from our reader
  223. <Casusby> especially one that is credited to anon
  224. <topten3> I know Troid abuses his admin powers to single out posters he does not like over 4chan.
  225. <Casusby> I do not care about what Troid does
  226. <topten3> Well, on the day I was banned it was Troid who banned me.
  227. <topten3> So I was under the assumption he was a key person on the site.
  228. <Casusby> The only show of good faith that you're going to get is to respect your wish to remove the works
  229. <Casusby> that's that
  230. <Casusby> I'm done talking, I await the PSDs and that's it
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