- ALTERNATVE on 4chan passes
- (08:57:58) +fsdfdsf: Also getterfag is a problem
- (08:58:05) %kdel: delete mal threads
- (08:58:07) @ALTERNATIVE: can I aid you with this problem in some way
- (08:58:15) +ZenithTheOne: Kill him.
- (08:58:20) %kami`: he just ban evades
- (08:58:25) %kami`: and he's got a 4chan pass
- (08:58:32) +fsdfdsf: What's the other one ZenithTheOne, name starts wtih an S
- (08:58:35) +Azatsu: calm down fsdfdsf
- (08:58:35) @ALTERNATIVE: does he spam
- (08:58:39) %kami`: no
- (08:58:41) +Azatsu: he hasn't reached far yet
- (08:58:48) @ALTERNATIVE: how big a problem is he
- (08:58:55) +Azatsu: It's a small, growing problem
- (08:58:56) %kami`: I've spoken to moot about it
- (08:58:58) +ZenithTheOne: fsdfdsf it's hard to remember, but he follows him all the time. Let me check.
- (08:59:05) %kami`: he says its not worth removing his pass
- (08:59:06) @ALTERNATIVE: oh okay
- (08:59:13) %kdel: really?
- (08:59:20) %kami`: but we've discussed ideas on how to deal with people like him
- (08:59:21) %kdel: what was the reason moot gave>
- (08:59:26) @ALTERNATIVE: You really have to be a spammer to have your pass revoked
- (08:59:43) %kami`: he says he'll work on implementing punishments that affect pass usage
- (08:59:52) +andonuts: He's just a smalltime poster that blatantly shits up any thread he's in. Reverse trolls /m/ series by being a retard while posting fake opinions and other terrible things.
- (08:59:53) @ALTERNATIVE: that's a better solution
- (08:59:54) +AoC: can we use the pass auth info to just track him and implement a hell ban?
- (09:00:04) +Azatsu: he tries to force who are you quoting too
- (09:00:05) +Azatsu: A lot
- (09:00:08) +AoC: and before you say the system doesn't allow for it
- (09:00:18) +AoC: just implement delete on sight with a random delay
- (09:00:21) +Azatsu: Jones created a monster
- (09:00:23) +AoC: drives them insane
- (09:00:29) @ALTERNATIVE: yes yes
- (09:00:33) +andonuts: Siztra.
- (09:00:34) @ALTERNATIVE: anything can be done
- (09:00:38) +fsdfdsf: andonuts has it
- (09:00:43) +Azatsu: Siztra is permabanned?
- (09:00:45) @ALTERNATIVE: but I dont think we're going to see using passes for bans
- (09:00:57) +Azatsu: I saw some of his posts, thought he was pretty shitty and obnoxious but nothing else
- (09:00:59) @ALTERNATIVE: we can't be responsible for affecting something someone paid for
- (09:01:20) +AoC: they paid for captcha bypass and that's all they get
- (09:01:21) +fsdfdsf: He follows getterfag around Azatsu and they circle jerk it out in threads
- (09:01:38) +Azatsu: do they fight or they circlejerk
- (09:01:39) @ALTERNATIVE: if they can't post, we're taking away that thing they bought
- (09:01:41) +AoC: if their posts are still shitty and notable enough that we have a pattern for deletion on sight, that's on the user not the product
- (09:01:44) +fsdfdsf: They fight
- (09:01:47) @ALTERNATIVE: we dont have the legal position to do shit like that
- (09:01:55) @ALTERNATIVE: not that it's not legal
- (09:02:02) @ALTERNATIVE: but we shouldnt make legal choices about the site
- (09:02:09) @ALTERNATIVE: it's not our place as moderators, or janitors
- (09:02:19) +andonuts: I'm still pretty sure Siztra is part of the old group from /v/ or /vg/ that used to post mare porn all day.
- (09:02:27) %kami`: basically it will amount to a short ban on the pass if the poster is banned globally
- (09:02:27) +andonuts: Posts exactly like one of the members of that little group.
- (09:02:31) +Azatsu: So anyone that buys a pass will never be met with a possible "hellban" if such things is implemented?
- (09:02:41) @ALTERNATIVE: kami`: yeah that's a damn good idea
- (09:02:58) %kami`: :)
- (09:02:59) @ALTERNATIVE: Azatsu: I wouldnt expect to see bans based on the passes
- (09:03:01) +AoC: well, moot has already been clear of the limits of the Pass and what you get for paying which is only and only captcha bypass
- (09:03:24) @ALTERNATIVE: there's a reason moot has put in big letters all around the revoke pass option DO NOT USE. DO NOT USE WITHOUT TALKING TO MOOT.
- (09:03:42) +AoC: that's because revoking is a whole different affair
- (09:03:49) +AoC: you're removing the product itself
- (09:04:11) @ALTERNATIVE: my point is not about how great it would be (it would be great) to have bans and restrictions based on passes
- (09:04:32) @ALTERNATIVE: but rather, that we cant make business decesions, no matter how small
- (09:04:48) @ALTERNATIVE: anything that has money involved in it at all wont be touched by any of us
- (09:04:56) +AoC: fair enough
- (09:05:04) %kami`: I'm sure that can be amended in the terms of use by moot
- (09:05:12) @ALTERNATIVE: yeah there's always room for change
- (09:05:28) @ALTERNATIVE: and I was in a possible future the other day were we switched to a full login system for posting
- (09:05:29) %kami`: a clause that stipulates any misuse of the pass will ensue in a short length ban of it
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